2019年1月28日 星期一

[Tech_Job] [討論] 為什麼layout工程師很少有本科系? by calibration (噓我啊~~~)


<div id="main-content" class="bbs-screen bbs-content"><div class="article-metaline"><span class="article-meta-tag">作者</span><span class="article-meta-value">calibration (噓我啊~~~)</span></div><div class="article-metaline-right"><span class="article-meta-tag">看板</span><span class="article-meta-value">Tech_Job</span></div><div class="article-metaline"><span class="article-meta-tag">標題</span><span class="article-meta-value">[討論] 為什麼layout工程師很少有本科系?</span></div><div class="article-metaline"><span class="article-meta-tag">時間</span><span class="article-meta-value">Wed Feb 27 10:15:46 2019</span></div>
本肥宅待過幾家系統廠
發現不少layout工程師都不是電機電子畢業
非電子電機畢業的都是透過職訓局上課媒合才進公司。如果是年資老的會很好配合,但是
剛進來的菜鳥就很讓人頭大,本肥宅就曾經碰過有菜鳥把CLK跟IQ包在一起走線,讓人無


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</span><span class="f2">※ 編輯: calibration (101.136.50.253), 02/27/2019 10:16:28
</span><div class="push"><span class="f1 hl push-tag">→ </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">Kaiii0618</span><span class="f3 push-content">: 地方媽媽</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 10:16
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="hl push-tag">推 </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">interactive</span><span class="f3 push-content">: layout都是老女人在做的</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 10:17
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="f1 hl push-tag">→ </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">calibration</span><span class="f3 push-content">: 本肥宅有碰過歷史系畢業的年輕男生layout</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 10:19
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="hl push-tag">推 </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">gn01216674</span><span class="f3 push-content">: layout怎麼畫各家都不同啊 我內部chip抗擾能力佳,要</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 10:22
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="f1 hl push-tag">→ </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">gn01216674</span><span class="f3 push-content">: 包也可以啊</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 10:22
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="hl push-tag">推 </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">wbw</span><span class="f3 push-content">: 同事遇過main chip放中間,crystal放板邊的</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 10:26
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="f1 hl push-tag">→ </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">lp123gbaj</span><span class="f3 push-content">: pcb?</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 10:28
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="hl push-tag">推 </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">auva</span><span class="f3 push-content">: 因為layout大多不被重視 pay吸引不了本科生</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 10:51
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="hl push-tag">推 </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">ggggggh</span><span class="f3 push-content">: ic layout3萬多。誰會想做啊?</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 11:00
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="f1 hl push-tag">→ </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">REMEMBERYAU</span><span class="f3 push-content">: Boring呀,而且很多公司都外包給六六了,台灣layout</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 11:00
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="f1 hl push-tag">→ </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">REMEMBERYAU</span><span class="f3 push-content">: 的真的越來越少見</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 11:00
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="f1 hl push-tag">→ </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">REMEMBERYAU</span><span class="f3 push-content">: 我遇過最扯的是ground當訊號線layout,整片板子都空</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 11:03
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="f1 hl push-tag">→ </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">REMEMBERYAU</span><span class="f3 push-content">: 空的沒鋪地,看起來十足autonet樣</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 11:03
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="hl push-tag">推 </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">sai1268</span><span class="f3 push-content">: 反正最後還不是要hw來檢查,沒檢查到就hw問題。沒在動腦</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 11:15
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="f1 hl push-tag">→ </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">sai1268</span><span class="f3 push-content">: 的layout工程師就這樣</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 11:15
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="hl push-tag">推 </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">b18902040</span><span class="f3 push-content">: 之前不是有文章說lay out可以接近百萬。原來都是假的?</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 11:26
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="hl push-tag">推 </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">blake7899</span><span class="f3 push-content">: 我們公司的layout也幾乎都是給26做 要不然就是外籍工</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 11:28
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="f1 hl push-tag">→ </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">blake7899</span><span class="f3 push-content">: 程師</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 11:28
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="f1 hl push-tag">→ </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">Richardson11</span><span class="f3 push-content">: 如果跟GG EE相較哪個比較好?</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 11:53
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="f1 hl push-tag">噓 </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">zxcv40711</span><span class="f3 push-content">: 你有看過保險業務是本科系出身的?</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 12:13
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="hl push-tag">推 </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">x080944924</span><span class="f3 push-content">: 看回文的好像都pub layout</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 12:23
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="hl push-tag">推 </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">chunrung</span><span class="f3 push-content">: IC layout跟PCB layout差很多,完全是不同層級不同薪水</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 12:28
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="f1 hl push-tag">→ </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">x080944924</span><span class="f3 push-content">: 分紅好像都很慘耶</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 12:37
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="hl push-tag">推 </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">zomzom</span><span class="f3 push-content">: Layout 百萬是真的啊</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 12:38
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="f1 hl push-tag">→ </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">mliao</span><span class="f3 push-content">: IC layout, 薪水很低吧</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 12:58
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="hl push-tag">推 </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">woulin</span><span class="f3 push-content">: 功力夠強可以自己出來開工作室接案,不好嗎</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 13:04
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="hl push-tag">推 </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">x246libra</span><span class="f3 push-content">: 你確定是hw查? 我以為會推給韌體xd</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 13:04
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="f1 hl push-tag">→ </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">x080944924</span><span class="f3 push-content">: 薪水怎樣算低,怎樣算高,年薪300才是高嗎</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 13:06
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="hl push-tag">推 </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">woulin</span><span class="f3 push-content">: 原PO講的職訓局出來的,應該是PCB Layout</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 13:07
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="hl push-tag">推 </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">jimgene</span><span class="f3 push-content">: 我就是電子本科系的,但是除了我,我真沒看過本科系的</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 13:29
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="f1 hl push-tag">→ </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">jimgene</span><span class="f3 push-content">: PCB layout要破百真的不難,只是要做高階一點的</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 13:30
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="hl push-tag">推 </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">cwssam1</span><span class="f3 push-content">: 我一個親戚三姐妹全部做layout,只有一個本科,一個還大</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 14:08
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="f1 hl push-tag">→ </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">cwssam1</span><span class="f3 push-content">: 學肄業,都是職訓出來的</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 14:08
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="hl push-tag">推 </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">sun8</span><span class="f3 push-content">: 我前同事在GG滿受重用的..一年應該總收300左右, 不到40歲</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 14:33
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="hl push-tag">推 </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">Ericbecool</span><span class="f3 push-content">: PCB/Substrate/IC ?</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 14:40
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="f1 hl push-tag">→ </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">samuelcdf</span><span class="f3 push-content">: 我看是推給fw去解吧... 碰過不開機沒跑code叫fw解</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 15:18
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="f1 hl push-tag">噓 </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">apolloapollo</span><span class="f3 push-content">: 都學店的啊</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 15:56
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="f1 hl push-tag">→ </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">guanrulee</span><span class="f3 push-content">: 哪一種layout要講清楚 layout又不是特定專有名詞</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 17:39
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="f1 hl push-tag">→ </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">asel</span><span class="f3 push-content">: 到底在說Pcb 還是Ic啊</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 17:39
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="hl push-tag">推 </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">treeyoyo</span><span class="f3 push-content">: Office layout?fab layout?</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 17:58
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="hl push-tag">推 </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">codehard</span><span class="f3 push-content">: 推給FW的機率大 反正EE也不會load code</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 18:10
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="hl push-tag">推 </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">uowa</span><span class="f3 push-content">: 關鍵字:系統廠</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 19:00
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="f1 hl push-tag">噓 </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">m4vu0</span><span class="f3 push-content">: pcb soc. 都分不清楚</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 19:06
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="hl push-tag">推 </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">tomet</span><span class="f3 push-content">: 系統廠當然是說pcb啊,難到系統廠做ic?</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 19:24
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="hl push-tag">推 </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">UDK0821</span><span class="f3 push-content">: PCB都老阿姨 還聽說過霸凌實習生的 顆顆</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 20:08
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="f1 hl push-tag">→ </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">Rocker5566</span><span class="f3 push-content">: 我也有同學請我想去學 他也是沒一技之長的那種</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 20:16
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="hl push-tag">推 </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">benboss</span><span class="f3 push-content">: Ic layout當然有百萬以上</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 20:45
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="hl push-tag">推 </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">PuppyTing</span><span class="f3 push-content">: 通常會想走ic的都會唸碩,之後轉RD</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 02/27 21:08
</span></div><div class="push"><span class="hl push-tag">推 </span><span class="f3 hl push-userid">guanole</span><span class="f3 push-content">: 系統廠有人在問ic layout 哪間有做呢</span><span class="push-ipdatetime"> 03/01 22:47
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